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An informative Carrd concerning the continuous unfair and treatment of Why Don't We


On August 26 2021, a Billboard article concerning the boyband Why Don't We's alleged abuse and lawsuit was published to their website. This sparked a discussion, and we made it our mission to find out proof to backup the claims against David Loeffler/Signature, the band's former manager/management company. Since then, a ton of information, previously buried, resurfaced. We have taken notice that some of said information might have been lost and/or watered down while it circulated on social media, which is why we took the decision to post it here, where no risks of that happening are being taken.

INFORMATION


WHY DON'T WE


Five talented guys

If you've never heard of the worldwide phenomenon Why Don't We, you might be unfamiliar with their names; Daniel Seavey, Jack Avery, Corbyn Besson, Zach Herron and Jonah Marais. The band was formed in September 2016, since then coming to many accomplishments in life and in their professional career.

A passion for music

It's easy to tell that each and every one of these boys are in love with their art, with every one of them being a key asset to the band as individuals. They each had a dream and although the events they had to go through to come to it were unfair ― and, at times, probably terrifying for young people ― they did not give up on it and managed to achieve it.

No dream should come with such a cost.

WARNING


Trigger Warning // The following page contains mentions of abuse, neglect, child p*rnography, child mistreatment. Some evidence may contain yelling.

CLAIMS & EVIDENCE


1. Abuse

On August 28, an audio leaked (by an unknown source, to our knowledge) from the BMA's occurring in May 2017, in which David is heard yelling and diminishing Zach for ordering a Caesar salad. The things David says are very disturbing (e.g, saying that Zach didn't "earn the right" to eat).

2. Neglect and Child mistreatment

When they moved into the house in 2016/2017 (I do not know the exact date, but it was early in their career), it has been stated that they were barely allowed to leave the house, invite friends over, and that there was a security alarm installed that was on after 10PM, when they also had to turn their phones in, that the boys did not know the code to. They were forced to share two small bedrooms and had barely any food.This breaks Child Abuse Laws in California, as "neglect" is defined as;"the failure of a parent or other person with responsibility for the child to provide need for food"

Zach used to end up sleeping under Daniel and Jonah's bed for over a year.

The article also states that they worked for 18H a day, at the time where Zach and Jack were still minors. This is in direct violation of the child labor laws in California, which states;"During the school year, minors aged 16 to 17 generally are limited to 4 hours of work on a school day, 8 hours on a nonschool day, from 5 a.m. to 10 p.m."
"When school is out, the limits are 8 hours per day and 48 per week."
" "Class A violations" include ― violating the permit or hours requirements for a third time or more"
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3. Child p*rnography

At the time of the Unbelievable music video, released May 25th 2019 (which was co-produced by David), Zach was still under 18, yet was depicted naked in a Colorado desert. This qualifies as possession and distribution of child p*rnography as the state of Colorado prohibits;"the production, promotion, and possession of all explicit content involving or depicting children under the age of 18."[zoom to read]

4. Failure to pay "employees" the least required in the state of California

In 2016, the minimum wage was $10, the minimum wage in California is $15 an hour today.We know they were working 18 hours a day, yet they were only paid 40 to 60 dollars a day, which goes against stated laws about minimum wage in Los Angeles.

5. False imprisonment

In number 2, we discussed briefly the fact that they weren't allowed to leave their house and had a security system installed that they did not know the code to. That goes against Penal Code 236 PC which describes false imprisonment as; “the unlawful violation of the personal liberty of another.The commission of the crime means that one person restrains, detains, or confines another person without his/her/their consent. The crime can be committed with or without force or violence"

OTHER VICTIMS


Eben

Eben, another artist under the same management has most probably received the same sort of treatment from David as the other guys.

Their families

It's no doubt the guys' families were impacted as well along with them. They've shared statements on social media concerning how they felt, especially Daniel's father, Jeff Seavey.

Their girlfriends/exes

Christina Harris, Tatum Dahl, Kay Cook and Gabriela Gonzalez have spoken in the past about being mistreated by Why Don't We's management.

HOW DO I HELP?


A message for the fandom

Because we care about Why Don't We so much, it’s easy to feel overwhelmed during these hard times. If you’re feeling sad or worried, remember that we are all in this together and that us Limelights or WDWers (no matter what we choose to call ourselves) are a family.

Stay educated

The first way to support the guys is to stay in the loop about the lawsuit. Our social media accounts, @FREEWDWPROOF and this carrd are great sources for updates about what is going on, but we also don't discredit articles from official sources such as Billboard, TMZ and else.

Spread the word

Talk to people about this story. Tag news outlets, people and/or any tabloids or news outlets you know. Encourage them to cover their story. Spreading awareness is vital in solving any issue, especially one that involves injustice.

Send love

Lastly, the most important way to support the guys is to send them your well wishes. The guys love their fans so much and our support during this time is very much needed.

CASE UPDATES

To get updates as they are posted, follow @FREEWDWPROOF on Twitter or InstagramAll dates here follow the format DD/MM/YY


LATEST UPDATE

(17/04/23) Why Don't We and Randy’s motion to stay the Florida case pending the CLC verdict has been denied.The court states they could not grant the motion because the CLC was filed after the Florida case and the CLC doesn’t cover the whole case (i.e Signature’s tortious inference and defamation claims)What does this mean?The case will continue as scheduled.


06/04/23

(VIA Jonah’s Discord server) He won’t be able to finish cameos due to depositions.

06/04/23

Jonah, Jack, Zach and Corbyn are set to deposition for the Florida case today and tomorrow (07/04/23).

28/03/23

Signature’s motion to modify case management order is DENIED! “Lack of good cause” (logical reasoning) was listed as the Judge’s reason.

28/03/23

Why Don't We and Randy’s motion to strike (get rid of) Signature’s expert witnesses has been GRANTED!It was found Signature intentionally violated the order and caused prejudice and the only way to rectify the violation (that Signature didn’t deny) is to strike the witnesses and impose sanctions in the form of attorney fees incurred by Why Don't We and Randy because of it.

28/03/23

Why Don't We and Randy’s motion for protective order to allow them to attend mediation and depositions remotely (Zoom/phone) has been GRANTED!

27/03/23

(VIA @JeffSeavey) "@Whydontwemusic won 3 major motions in court today!! Was a VERY good day! Still a long ways to go, but we’ll take it!! More info coming soon!!"

22/03/23

Signature is asking for another extension of deadlines, this one is for discovery. There was a separate case between Randy and David in California that Randy dismissed (reason unknown).Signature is now asking the Florida court to extend the discovery deadline so they can motion for financial records and communications from Randy that he intended to get in the California case, for the Florida case. These are records that Signature hasn’t appeared to have planned to ask for in Florida, but given the California case got dropped, now wants them for the Florida case.The California case was to remove David as a manager from Randy’s company, PDMIII. We aren’t finding a viable connection in our research to conclude documents from that case would be relevant in the Florida case.

17/03/23

Why Don't We was being asked to essentially downgrade for their 3rd Sessions performance by Signature, reasons unknown but we believe it was to cut costs so Signature can pocket more money. Also, Why Don't We weren’t in agreement with the price of Sessions, and it appears they only saw it through to try to give fans the absolute best they could, despite not getting paid. They also hint, in this email, that details weren’t always given to them upfront or given at the very last second, leaving little room to prepare.

11/03/23

Revealed Through public records:Randy is testifying as an expert witness, and is going to testify the allegation that Signature was promised Equity (stocks and shares) in Sessions Live as part of Why Don't We’s deal.
We have not seen any documents to support this, but we speculate Randy and Why Don't We were not aware of this at the time, nor were they included in this presumably back door deal. It would thoroughly explain how Signature stayed afloat, while Why Don't We never received a payment. Sessions typically paid its artists 6 weeks after the fact, and took larger cuts for themselves towards the end (per anonymous sessions artists). Sessions would have had a duty to pay their share holders before their artists to keep them afloat.
If Randy is testifying to this, he has proof. Documents in Discovery don’t always become public, so we may not see any evidence of this claim until after the trial, if at all.

07/03/23

Randy’s motion to compel against Signature has been GRANTED!This means Signature HAS to produce Specifics of who, what, when, where, and how the contracts were breached and how they got to that $53M figure.

06/03/23

Why Don't We and Randy have filed a joint protective order that asks the court to allow them to hold depositions and mediations via Zoom. Signature is fighting against it, demanding they all appear in person, in Florida, despite the fact that the majority of the parties in this case are from California and would have to travel for long periods to do so. Signature claims Zoom mediation and deposition is a “waste of time”. They also re-state that they will not settle. Signature is also trying to hold the ability to use Zoom against Why Don't We and Randy as a bargaining chip, essentially saying, “we will let you use Zoom, if you agree to re arrange the case management order”. If you recall, Signature violated the case management order in early February, when they filed an incomplete witness list on the deadline along side a motion to change the case management order to fit their own needs.

26/02/23

Why Don't We and Randy have jointly filed a motion to stay the Florida case. The previous motion to stay was not quite denied, but also not granted. The stay was motioned pending the CLC case verdict.Since the CLC hasn’t announced their verdict yet, staying the case could save time and resources for both parties in the Florida case. The stay could potentially remove the current court case from the docket, but if the CLC rules in Signature’s favor, a new date would be issued for the Florida case. This is just a motion at this time, which has not been granted or denied yet. Signature admitted in the public documents that the CLC verdict is affecting them as well, as the verdict could change the way both parties plead their case.What does this mean?This is all the information we have on this particular motion at this time. A stay is a pause. A stay to the case pending the CLC verdict could help both parties immensely, saving money and timeDisclaimer: We are not in anyway insinuating that this means anyone is winning or losing. As we have stated from the beginning, this is not a race. And no point before the end of a trial is there one ahead of the other. The American justice system is designed to give both parties as even if a playing field as possible through the whole judicial process and proceedings.

17/02/23

In Signature’s response to Randy’s motion to compel, it’s revealed that Signature is waiting for the expert’s testimony to finish “calculating damages”.They appear to be relying on the expert witnesses, that they pay to testify their opinions on the matter, to tell them how much they have lost in damages. This furthers our opinion that Signature did not fully examine their witnesses and our opinion that Signature doesn’t actually know how much in “damages” they have allegedly incurred. Signature hasn’t said how they came to that $53M figure, and it appears (to us) that Signature isn’t entirely sure either, as it seems to be a complete estimation.

13/02/23

Why Don't We has filed a petition/motion to strike Signature's witnesses on the following basis:- The fact that Signature did not file their witness list correctly (i.e details like experience, CV, and pay rate.)- Allowing these witnesses would be prejudice against Why Don't We and Randy because they did not disclose pay rate, qualifications, or the opinions of these witnesses in this case.- Signature's non-compliance with the court's order concerning the filing disrupts the efficiency of the trial because Signature filed “preliminary” to presumably try to give themselves more time.- Why Don't We and Randy filed a complete and proper expert witness list on time. Signature filed an improper and incomplete witness list on the deadline along with a motion to (essentially) change the case management schedule to (presumably) allow them more time.- Randy’s lawyer tried to resolve this issue by phone with Signature’s lawyer, and no resolution could be made between them.- To date, Signature has not produced any evidence for their damage claims.What does this mean?Why Don't We alleges that Signature purposely didn't follow the court's order following the filing of their witness list to waste time, while adding that they are at reasonable risk of getting unfair treatment if the witnesses are allowed through because of the intentional misfiling made by Signature who didn't include the witnesses' opinions, evidence and pay rate weren’t filed.

10/02/23

UPDATE | Daniel's bankruptcyAccording to documents, Signature is still fighting Daniel through his bankruptcy case. We’ve determined through research that Signature can only claim a debt is owed to them (much like in the Florida suit). Documents do not show any basis behind the claim, they essentially just allege Daniel helped lose them $53M. They are also claiming that they own Daniel, his name and likeness despite Daniel successfully rejecting the contract and being legally out of it. They appear to be doing everything they can think of to try and profit from Daniel’s solo career, disregarding the rejection and claiming the contract is still in play until September 28th, 2023. Daniel may be out of the contract legally, but Signature is using every legal avenue to avoid leaving Daniel alone.The bankruptcy court date is next week. We will update more as records become available.

07/02/23

Revealed in Daniel’s bankruptcy documents, in regards to the ongoing bankruptcy suit between Signature and Daniel, Signature sought to replace Daniel in the band in retaliation to Daniel rejecting Signature’s contract. The contracts for Why Don't We are due to expire in September, 2023.Signature stated, “Until these issues are resolved, and a replacement for [Daniel] is added to the group, there is no path forward to either tour or release music." This confirms further that Signature’s actions were the sole cause of the bands hiatus and cancellation of tour.To be clear, “Replacement” is NOT happening. It’s not a possibility. It won’t happen. It’s just something Signature wanted. It’s just something Signature said to Why Don't We.

07/02/23

Why Don't We’s trial witnesses and what they are testifying to are as follows:

1. Music Industry Expert― Testifying to the contract being beyond industry standards, overbearing, a conflict of interest, Signature's estimated damage claims, money paid to Jaycen Joshua, dehumanization of Why Don't We by Loeffler, Signature’s hinderance to Why Don't We’s careers, Signature’s lack of good faith, failure to disperse funds to Why Don't We, and how Loeffler and Signature’s multiple forms of alleged abuse voided the contract.

2.Talent Agency Act Expert―Testifying to how Signature and Loeffler violated the TAA (Talent Agency Act)

3. Forensic Accountant ExpertTestifying against Signature’s claims of monetary loss and to Signature’s failure to account and pay Why Don't We.

P.S.: We won’t be releasing names or information to identify the witnesses in this trial. If you have this information, do not use it. Doing anything with the identifying information could prolong and harm the case. Just because they are public, doesn’t mean they should be.

03/02/23

Randy has filed a motion to compel against Signature. He is asking the court to make Signature produce the proof that they sustained $50M+ in damages. This appears to be Randy’s third attempt to get clarification from Signature on this matter.What does this mean?In the simplest of terms, Randy is asking Signature to show them their “math”, per say. He wants to see the financial documents, accounting, and contracts that Signature used to get that $50M+ number. Signature has allegedly not complied in this for 9 months.

03/02/23

Signature's witness list will consist of 4 people:
1. Chief Financial Officer of Signature Entertainment, LLC
2. An Economist
3. 2 Accountants (listed together)
All 4 people will be testifying to, in Signature’s own words, “Damages sustained by Signature”.Pictured is Signature's own estimation of damages allegedly caused by Why Don't We. So far, Signature has not disclosed how they came up with these numbers and are allegedly avoiding Why Don't We and Randy's questions surrounding it.#FreeWDW

27/01/23

Eben is confirmed to be free via Jonah’s Instagram story!#FreeEBEN #FreeWDW

19/01/23

David Loeffler’s motion to dismiss Why Don't We’s amended complaint against him is DENIED!This means Why Don't We will be able to continue with their lawsuit against David Loeffler as an individual.

13/01/23

UPDATE: 2 days before Signature’s January 5th deadline to produce documents (ie. accounting, COVID relief), they requested a 10 day extension to make the new due date January 16th (16/01/23). We don’t know yet if this request was granted. If it wasn’t, Signature could be reprimanded.

11/01/23

Back in March 2022, Signature filed to appeal the Florida courts denial of the anti-suit injunction. This motion was an attempt by Signature to stop the CLC trial from happening. Now, 10 months after the motion was filed and 6 months after the CLC has completed (no verdict yet).If the appeal is granted: There will be another hearing in front of the judge overseeing the lawsuit, and both sides would have to argue their case again, which will likely wind up with the same result as the first, denied. Signature can not appeal this motion again.

23/12/22

Monday, December 19th (19/12/22) at 9:45am PST SessionsLive shut down. They gave artists and fans no warnings and no explanations. They made no payments or refunds to artists or fans on the platform. One artist tried to contact them about it, and this is what they received (see joint picture):We don’t know if this means anything for the case, but the Sessions contract is brought up several times in it.The artist who came to us with this information did not want to be tagged.

22/12/22

Randy’s motion to compel production of documents was GRANTED for all but 2 documents. The documents Signature is ordered to produce include accounting records for Why Don't We and documents related to Signature receiving PPP and other COVID-19 financial relief. Signature has 15 days to produce.These are the two documents that the judge ordered do not have to be produced. Randy can refile with more detail to request these documents from Signature.This means: Signature will have to hand over things like accounting for Why Don't We (payments, expenses) for the entirety of them being a band. It’s possible these are documents Why Don't We themselves have never seen. It will hopefully shed light on how and why Why Don't We hasn’t been paid.

20/12/22

The lawsuit & bankruptcy case made Why Don't We’s addresses public because of US laws requiring transparency. It is illegal to take any information you view in these documents and use it to harass, dox, or cause any form of harm. Our thoughts are with Daniel as navigates this situation.TMZ article: WHY DON'T WE SINGER Daniel Seavey's Obsessed Fan Returns... BREAKS IN AGAIN, TRIES TO KISS HIM!!!

18/12/22

With the 6 month (California average) deadline we previously researched and found for the CLC coming, we dug a little deeper for more understanding. We have learned that US Department of Labor standard (nationwide guideline) is 7-9 months.Source: dol.govWhat does this mean?
Although we are hopeful that Why Don't We’s case will have a verdict within the average CLC time frame, we wanted to inform and prepare for the possibility that we may be looking at the national 7-9 month average. To our knowledge, NO VERDICT has been reached yet.

The complexity of the issue(s) on appeal or a request for oral argument may affect the length of time it takes to decide an appeal.

16/12/22

To our knowledge, Signature did receive and still is receiving a percentage of money from the band’s music streams and sales.(Why Don't We receives money too, as well as anyone involved in the writing and production)

16/12/22

Signature reportedly alleges that Why Don't We’s “refusal to perform certain obligations of the agreements” (ie. SessionsLive) cost Signature $50M (fifty million dollars), all while allegedly refusing to provide documents (including PPP documents) to support their claim.Definitions:
“PPP” is The Paycheck Protection Program. It provides small businesses with funds to pay up to 8 weeks of payroll costs including benefits. Funds can also be used to pay interest on mortgages, rent, and utilities. Fully Forgiven.
To clarify: This means exactly what it says. Signature is arguing that WDW cost Signature 50 million dollars. We speculate they are talking about the Sessions Live contract as that’s a reoccurring contract Signature mentions.

21/11/22

(VIA @nikitacrave) "Updated info [Randy] gave about [Why Don't We] hiatus"

15/11/22

A long but general update that explains some confusion and why the information comes out the way it does:Signature has long accused Randy of interfering with Signature’s relationship with Why Don't We. Signature is actively refusing to hand over any evidence to support their claim (even after they agreed to hand over some). Signature has also refused to hand over accounting documents for Why Don't We, documents for the PPP and other COVID-19 relief Signature applied for and allegedly received. Signature continues to claim Why Don't We and Randy’s “charges” against them are unfounded or made up. According to records, Randy and Why Don't We have tried to discuss settlement. Randy has gone as far to offer Signature more time to discuss the charges one by one after Signature complained about not having explanations, but Signature allegedly turned around and refused.It’s our belief that Signature has no intentions of settling, or cooperating appropriately. Based on records, Signature has made every step a mountain of paperwork and file repetitive motions that are consistently denied by the courts.Court cases of this stature typically don’t move swiftly, but we do believe Signature has made the extra effort to make this as gruesome for Why Don't We and Randy as possible. Patience and understanding with Why Don't We, their families and their team is needed. Also, please understand that even though this case is public, as are all cases of this stature, that the people named in these cases legally can not talk about it. One of the reasons this page exists, is this knowledge. As soon as we find updates or information, we inform you. To us, this has been and continues to be a human rights issue, financial/psychological abuse and strong arming at its core.

09/11/22

We have finally received confirmation through public documents that the California Labor Board verdict is still pending. Therefore, a decision has either not yet been made, or has not been cleared by California’s Supreme Court. We could still be waiting until December/January.

24/08/22

Randy’s deposition reveals that he & David’s wife had to have an “intervention” with David because he was pushing Why Don't We too hard. It also confirms the parents were aware and had notified Randy, contrary to David’s allegations that no one spoke up until the case was filed.#FreeWDW

23/08/22

David has filed a motion to dismiss Why Don't We’s complaint that seeks to hold him accountable for contractual duties that he didn’t meet. David’s reasoning is he thinks he shouldn’t be held personally accountable for Signature’s alleged breach.To clarify: In every case, a motion is just a request to the judge. The judge will approve or deny the motion. This motion has not been ruled on yet.#FreeWDW

12/07/22

Daniel is able to do other projects because he is out of his contract via bankruptcy. They can not make any moves as a band until they are free from Signature. Daniel can continue to make money through music during the hiatus, the other four are still bound by Signature.

06/07/22

We, Free Why Don’t We Proof, will continue to follow and research the California Labor Comission and Florida cases throughout Why Don't We’s hiatus, and until they are free. A hiatus is defined as, “a pause or gap in a sequence, series, or process." This means Why Don't We is on break with intent to return. We’ve all now seen the cease and desist order, we can confirm this order is the reason. Because Signature owns the copyrights and trademarks to their music, their name, and their logos; they can revoke consent for all of the above to be used in any promotion or performance. That is what they have done. The CLC verdict has yet to come in, and can free them. If not the CLC, there is the Florida lawsuit and other forms of litigation that can also free them from Signature. The reason for removing the band’s name and association from their bio’s is because of this cease and desist letter. We can easily assume the blacked out portions were threats of a lawsuit if they continue using the aforementioned “copyrighted material”. Why Don’t We has fought tooth and nail for this tour and they will continue to fight. This is not the end, this is a pause.#FreeWDW

01/07/22

― CASE UPDATES ―Why Don’t We’s original, unedited statement
Randy urging David and Steve to "make things right"
Eben confirming Atlantic [Records] is not blocking his music

TW // Eating DisordersWhy Don't We's original, unpublished statement compared side by side to the condensed published version. The original reveals one member lost 40 pounds due to the eating disorder.Red: Different wording
Blue: Retracted parts

Randy's Email to David and Steve on August 17, 2021, attempting to talk things out in order to protect Why Don't We and Eben from management's separation lawsuit, mentioning misappropriated publishing rights (by Signature) and Sessions.

Eben confirming that Atlantic Records are not the ones blocking his music, going on to say they have been nothing but good to him and he considers Atlantic [Records] to be his family.

27/06/22

If you won Why Don't We tickets from a radio station for the original dates and had it revoked because of the postponed ticket sales, call your station. We’ve confirmed 2 previous winners are having their prizes honored for the new dates.

15/06/22

Verdict for the California Labor Commission hearing might not be in for 1-6 months.

03/06/22

Today is Day 4 of the California Labor Commission hearing. Tuesday (June 7th) is the last day scheduled for this hearing. We still don’t know if a verdict will be reached by Tuesday.

03/06/22

In regards to questions about the tour, Daniel said this during the fan Zoom call: "The cease and desists will not stop us." They have been fighting to tour, and they have confirmed they will not let anything get in the way of seeing their fans!
Clip via Silvia Cortez

01/06/22

Signature’s motion to dismiss Why Don't We’s counterclaim in the Florida case has been denied!

24/05/22

Corbyn, on Blue List Tv’s Twitch stream last night with Zach, talking about having the green light to release music that they previously couldn’t, being “beat down by some legal stuff", and wanting to give back to fans.

19/05/22

Eben on Instagram live when asked about his song “Changes”, “You’ll get Changes when I’m out of this contractual bulls**t and I’m actually able to release music.— Don’t worry, I’m gonna be dropping everything, it’s just taking forever."

15/05/22

The California Labor Commission hearing has been extended to June 3rd and June 7th. There is still no word in how long a verdict will take specifically. We are still trying to find an answer to that, and will keep you posted.

13/05/22

UPDATE: Daniel is officially free from his Signature contract! 🤍🤍🤍

13/05/22

Why Don't We has filed an opposition to Signature’s motion to dismiss Why Don't We’s counter claim. In this opposition they restated their claim that “Signature failed to provide proper credits and publishing revenues/purposefully diverted credits and income with false attribution to 3rd parties”.They restate Signature didn’t consult/advise Why Don't We before entering contracts on their behalf (ie. Sessions) & Signature failed to distribute the funds from these to Why Don't We. They state that credits were falsely given to 3rd parties, which took money away from what Why Don't We was due.

Trying to simplify this string of filings for you all:Why Don't We: “Here is a list of things we’d like to legally hold them accountable for”.
Signature: “This is untrue and should be dismissed.”
Why Don't We “This IS true and should not be dismissed.”

06/05/22

Today is the 3rd and final day of the California Hearing. Reminder, we may not hear of a verdict today, even if one is made.

05/05/22

Today is Day 2 of the Why Don't We vs. Signature hearing before the California Labor Board. From our understanding through our research, a verdict could come by end of day tomorrow, May 6. However it can take up to 30 days to have it validated by the Supreme Court of California.

04/05/22

This morning, Why Don't We will go before the California Labor Board. This board has time blocked out to hear their case from today, May 4th to Friday, May 6th. We have found limited information on how this court operates, but here is what you should know:1. We, the public, are not guaranteed a verdict on any of these three days.2. There is no "are they winning so far". This is a hearing in court of law. No matter what, there is no verdict until the Labor Commissioner declares it.3. If Why Don't We wins this California Labor Board case, they will be free. This should include the return of lost funds over the last 2 years and the copyrights to their name and music. This would also cancel signatures case against them in Florida.4. We have it from our sources that there is a plan B. If this way doesn't aid them, there are other avenues they can take. Do not give up hope.5. Stay strong for the guys today. They need us now more than ever to support them.6. A way you can always help and show support is to stream their music. Our sources say our support helps them more than we know.7. This very well can take up their whole day, do not worry if you do not see them active.We are working to gather a clear answer on how long verdicts take in this court. Please DM us on here, or on our Instagram (@freewdwproof) for questions, and keep an eye out for updates, we will post as soon as they come available.

27/04/22

(VIA @JeffSeavey) "IG Live Update (4-26-22) ❤️"

26/04/22

Signature has filed a motion to dismiss Jonah, Corbyn, Jack and Zach’s counterclaim against them. The counterclaim Why Don't We filed included them revealing to the court they were filmed nude, without their consent, during the “Unbelievable” video shoot.

22/04/22

We are aware that everyone has a lot of questions at the moment concerning the 2022 tour. We are asking you be considerate to the parties involved and wait for some information from Why Don't We or their associates. The information is ever changing. They will announce as soon as they are in possession of a clear answer.

19/04/22

Eben stating that he cannot release music because of his contract.

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06/04/22

David Loeffler and Steve Miller have a new company, Anomaly Create, managing a new band with the help of Jon lucero. The band has been active on Sessions Live for at least 5 months, with over 300 subscribers. They have also signed Jon’s Niece to their company.

Their website: Anomaly CreatePlease do not send any hate to anyone involved, this post is intended to merely post findings of our own research.

Caspary is in fact working with Anomaly Create as well. He follows all the artists and the bands page. He is also tagged in several photos for the artists along with posting a few like this one on his personal Instagram.

06/04/22

The case in Florida has been stayed for Daniel. This temporarily stops Signature’s court actions against him. Whatever claims Signature has against Daniel alone can now only be addressed in Bankruptcy court. As for the other four (Jack, Zach, Corbyn and Jonah), the case IS NOT paused. Just Daniel’s portion. Theguys however still benefit from this, for this allows Atlantic to invoke the inducement. The inducement will prevent Signature from having control over A&R, marketing and budget approval processes (meaning they could release music).

― DEFINITIONS ―
Stay: an action taken by a court to stop a legal proceeding or the actions of a party.A&R: the division of a record label or music publishing company that is responsible for talent scouting and overseeing the artistic development of recording artists.

05/04/22

Through further research, we’ve figured out that even if Atlantic did in fact invoke the artist inducement, Signature would still own the name and could still block the tour, which we believe is what may be happening.

05/04/22

Upon the news regarding tour, We’ve received questions through our DM’s if the label could step in. Therefore we wanted to also address this here, they could. Although, It would be expensive and it would be another legal battle, they have a right to. Atlantic has artists sign inducements, if all the Why Don't We boys signed, then Atlantic has a right to invoke it. At this point the delay of ticket sales alone also affect the companies supporting this tour. These companies include: LiveNation, AGI, Warner Music and above all, Atlantic Records.However, if they chose to step in, it’s not a guaranteed win. No legal matter is. If they win, they could sign the boys directly to their label, completely pushing signature out of the way. This however would be expensive, and though we are aware of other paths they could take, this is one way the label might intervene should they decide to. We are posting this so you can remain hopeful. This is a postponing of ticket sales, not the tour as of right now. Why Don't We and their team will continue to fight tooth and nail until they can see us again and until they are free.

01/04/22

Documents found, Judge granted termination of Signature contract. By law, Signature has 14 days from March 30th (30/03/22) to appeal. If they don’t, or an appeal gets denied, Daniel will be free from his Signature contract.

01/04/22

In February 2022, Daniel filed for bankruptcy. We’ve decided to post our speculations based off our research. Daniel's deposition was in relation to his bankruptcy case. When a person is granted bankruptcy, they have a right to terminate contracts. Daniel, although now officially bankrupt, was able to terminate his contract with Signature, and theoretically is now free of his obligations to signature. The cake was correct in a sense. However, Signature would have fourteen days to appeal. We are waiting for documents to post before we can officially confirm this information. We would like to state at this time, for legal reasons, these are simply our own speculations based off of recent events and findings. We don’t make a habit of posting without proof, but the remaining evidence has yet to become public record.
― DEFINITIONS ―
Chapter 11: a form of bankruptcy that involves a reorganization of a debtor's business affairs, debts, and assets, and for that reason is known as "reorganization" bankruptcy. It is most often used by large entities.Emancipation: the fact or process of being set free from legal, social, or political restrictions; liberation.

29/03/22

UPDATE: Daniel's deposition is today.― Deposition: A witness's sworn out-of-court testimony, used to gather information as part of the discovery process.

25/03/22

The "Unbelievable" lyric video has been acknowledged in the court documents.Loeffler filmed Third-Party Plaintiffs and Seavey in the nude during a time when at least one Third-Party Plaintiff was a minor.”

In an interview with Zach Sang, uploaded on September 11, 2019, the boys state they looked back and saw the crew filming. An unnamed individual allegedly told them “Keep going, we’re filming”. 2 female crew members allegedly inquired, “why didn’t you ask us to do it?”.

15/03/22

― California Labor Commission Case Update ―Our source has informed us tonight that the case has been postponed after a brief hearing this morning to May 4th (04/05/22) through May 6th (06/05/22). We can not share any further details at this time.

15/03/22

In the Florida case, Signature vs. Why Don't We, Signature has filed to appeal the court’s denial of the Anti-Suit Injunction.
― Definitions ―Appeal: the legal process to ask a higher court to review a decision by a judge in a lower court (trial court) because you believe the judge made a mistake.Anti-Suit Injunction: An order that prevents an opposing case from continuing in another jurisdiction.

15/03/22

This morning, Why Don't We will go before the California Labor Board. This board has time blocked out to hear their case from today, March 15, to Thursday, March 17. We don't personally know how this court operates, but here's what you should know:1. We, the public, are not guaranteed a verdict on any of these three days.2. There is no "are they winning so far". This is a hearing in court of law. No matter what, there is no verdict until their judge declares it.3. If Why Don't We wins this California Labor Board case, they will be free.4. We have it from our sources that there is a plan B. If this way doesn't aid them, there are other avenues they can take. Do not give up hope.5. Please do not flood the #FreeWDW hashtag on court dates (or ever). We try to use it to spread correct and true information regarding the case, and we want to make sure that everyone has access to the information we or anyone else receives.6. Stay strong for the guys. They need us now more than ever to support them.7. A way you can always help and show support is to stream their music. Our sources say our support helps them more than we know.

03/03/22

(VIA @JeffSeavey) "Count it as a win!! The injunction against
@whydontwemusic
was “DENIED”!!! WDW will get their day in court before the CA Labor Commission!!!
We still have a long way to go!! Prayers and Good Thoughts Appreciated!!!"

09/02/22

Today is the Anti-Suit injunction hearing. Signature will argue in favor of the motion to try to stop the Labor Board hearing in March. This motion was filed by Signature in October. We will update you as we receive info on this matter later in the day.

27/01/22

We have recently come about information that, we feel, not only answers frequently asked questions we receive but, also clears up confusion. This information we obtained also highlights the seriousness and severity of the case. We ask that these statements and words not be reformatted in any way as they are worded the way they are for a reason. Our source for this information is not public domain, so we are unable to share the origin of it at this time. Although we normally cite evidence for our claims and beliefs, we cannot do so. This page focuses on the truth and spends hours collecting and filtering out information to keep the fandom flooded with as much correct and true information as possible. We do not post anything we can’t confirm. “We believe” is in reference to this page, our carrd and our Instagram account, @freewdwproof.A ― We believe the guys only received around 14k each in the year 2021.B ― We believe that Signature has withheld advances for Why Don't We that weren't negotiated by Signature.C ― We believe Signature is with holding payments from Why Don't We in order to coerce them into signing a new contract with Signature.D ― We believe Why Don't We will never sign those
contracts no matter what Signature does.
E ― We believe Daniel having his own counsel strengthens the case for all five, as Daniel is the majority writer and producer for the band.F ― We believe Why Don't We and Eben are simply artists stuck in the middle of a falling out between Why Don't We's current representatives and Signature.G ― We believe the artists are being used as a "bargaining chip" by Signature against Why Don't We's representatives.H ― We believe Signature, or a member of signature, gave away Daniel's credit for production on TGTATBO to a close friend of theirs, when Daniel allegedly produced almost the entire album himself. We believe a monetary exchange may have occurred with this.I ― We believe Why Don't We's current representatives have Why Don't We's best interest at heart.J ― We believe the only way we, as fans, can actually help Why Don't We in this case is to stream their music. We believe the better the music does, the better chance Why Don't We has.K ― We believe at this time that Signature will not settle, and that Signature only wants the guys to re-sign their contract with them.We understand some of these statements can be stressful or upsetting to read. We ask all questions be directed to us and us only. We ask if you repost this information to your social media accounts, that you make sure all questions are directed back to us. We ask that you don’t answer them yourselves. We cannot cite our sources on our above statements but we can give more in depth detail as to these statement if asked, some, we actually do have shareable confirmation for from public documents. We can try to provide that if we have it and are specifically asked. We take full accountability for these statements above and will do our best to answer any further questions you may have.

26/01/22

Signature’s allegations of defamation by Why Don't We. They included all six Instagram posts (the band page and personal account) as evidence along with supportive comments from fans made on the post.— Disclaimer: We blocked out usernames ourselves.

26/01/22

Jonah, Corbyn, Jack and Zach Have filed a motion to dismiss Signature’s allegations of defamation of character. This motion is similar to Daniel’s, meaning all 5 have now filed this motion under their perspective counsel.

19/01/22

January 14, 2022: Counsel for both parties met (mediation of sorts) to discuss Daniel’s motion for signature to drop the defamation charges. The parties couldn’t come to an agreement.

19/01/22

From the December 30th, 2020 upload of “30 days of Why Don’t We”, 3 years after the first clip we posted; the boys still spoke of Jonah, Zach and Corbyn sharing a room. One bed, one air mattress.

18/01/22

Evidence and Educated Inferences:

Christian Seavey states that he’s watched his “brother go through some stuff” and indicates that it’s changed him. He refers to the “stuff” and overall situation as “heartbreaking”.

Carrie Frantzich, Jonah’s mother, writes, “Finally the truth comes out”.

Tyler Seavey states, “a long time coming”..“The core root of me leaving my job…was one man who made my life miserable enough to choose to leave touring the world with my brother.”. Insinuating that HIS reason for leaving his job was because of his own mistreatment by David.

Scott Helman, whose relationship to the band we can only assume is a professional one, recalled “an abusive conversation” he witnessed with his friend when he met the band. And described David as “an Asshole”.

Gruvi (Sydnie Avery) mentions “Daily tear filled phone calls” from Jack. Anthony Ortiz, one of Jack’s best friends, insinuates that this is signatures “Karma” indicating that he was aware of some of what was going on prior.

In a video clip from “30 days with ==Why Don’t We==", below, we see the boys talk about a “3 strike rule” and being convinced on at least one occasions that their careers would be over, over a a gusher wrapper.

In a video clip from “30 days with ==Why Don’t We==", below, we see the boys talk about a “3 strike rule” and being convinced on at least one occasions that their careers would be over, over a a gusher wrapper.In a letter written to Why Don’t We’s Attorneys, demanding retraction of these “false claims” made on social media, Signature claimed "there was no record of any complaint to any family member about abuse”Why would they give Signature records of the family’s knowledge of the abuse before Discovery? It’s known that giving evidence before being required to do so can potentially give the other party time to fabricate details.The word finally is used a lot, it’s definition is “after a long time, typically involving difficulty or delay.”. Why would they use the word “finally” if they are just hearing these accusations for the first time?

15/01/22

Daniel Has filed a motion to dismiss Signature's added complaint of “defamation of character” against Why Don’t We. Daniel has stated the first amendment and the fact that they (Why Don't We) never named signature in their public statements. Only ever referring to “one of our managers”.

13/01/22

We have been able to exclusively obtain this document confirming a hearing for Why Don't We vs. Signature for 15/03/22 (March 15 2022) to possibly 17/03/22 (March 17 2022). We have been told by a trustable source that if they win this, they WILL be let out of their contract.

13/01/22

In an interview with people, dated August 10, 2017, theguys talk about sharing only 2 bedrooms. Daniel and Jack to one; Corbyn, Jonah and Zach to another. This interview occurred 4 years before this lawsuit and allegations were brought about.

13/01/22

In a letter Signature wrote to both Why Don't We’s and Randy’s attorneys on 12/09/2021; Signature claims the 5 boys shared 3 bedrooms.

12/01/22

Eben allegedly stated he hasn’t been paid by Signature, and that the company has been trying to “shut his project down”. This is what he had to say after he allegedly made that statement.Disclaimer: We use the term “Allegedly” as we do not have a clip proving his exact words.

10/01/22

A statement allegedly made by Randy to Sessions in August was brought up during the case management conference.Sessions is mentioned as a contract that Why Don't We was entered into under Signature without knowledge of the contract terms, and without knowledge or agreement of payment.

10/01/22

Motion to abate or stay and the protective order against Signature have both been denied.

10/01/21

Signature has requested to consolidate Daniel's individual action to the group case. (10/01/21)

08/01/22

Allegations of threats have been brought forward in a document filed on 23/12/2021. Daniel states he was threatened and coerced into signing a new contract and various other 3rd party contracts (Example: Snickers endorsement) without any knowledge of his rights.

08/01/22

― DATES AND DEADLINES CONCERNING THE CASE ―Expert disclosures - 02/02/23
↳ Response - 04/10/23
Discovery - 04/14/23
Dispositives & Daubert - 04/28/23
Motions in limine - 05/12/23
Pretrial - 08/29/23
Trial - 09/11/23 → 10 TO 15 DAYS JURY TRIAL

07/01/22

The guys have not been paid in about 18 months accordting to the TMZ interview, five hours ago.

07/01/22

A Hearing for Anti-suit Injunction is scheduled for February 9, 2022.[Anti-suit Injunction: an order issued by a court or arbitral tribunal that prevents an opposing party from commencing or continuing a proceeding in another jurisdiction or forum.]

07/11/21

Official court date: Case management conference on January 7, 2022.

CASE UPDATES

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07/11/21

Official court date: Case management conference on January 7, 2022.

07/01/22

A Hearing for Anti-suit Injunction is scheduled for February 9, 2022.[Anti-suit Injunction: an order issued by a court or arbitral tribunal that prevents an opposing party from commencing or continuing a proceeding in another jurisdiction or forum.]

07/01/22

The guys have not been paid in about 18 months accordting to the TMZ interview, five hours ago.

08/01/22

― DATES AND DEADLINES CONCERNING THE CASE ―Expert disclosures - 02/02/23
↳ Response - 04/10/23
Discovery - 04/14/23
Dispositives & Daubert - 04/28/23
Motions in limine - 05/12/23
Pretrial - 08/29/23
Trial - 09/11/23 → 10 TO 15 DAYS JURY TRIAL

08/01/22

Allegations of threats have been brought forward in a document filed on 23/12/2021. Daniel states he was threatened and coerced into signing a new contract and various other 3rd party contracts (Example: Snickers endorsement) without any knowledge of his rights.

10/01/21

Signature has requested to consolidate Daniel's individual action to the group case. (10/01/21)

10/01/22

Motion to abate or stay and the protective order against Signature have both been denied.

10/01/22

A statement allegedly made by Randy to Sessions in August was brought up during the case management conference.Sessions is mentioned as a contract that Why Don't We was entered into under Signature without knowledge of the contract terms, and without knowledge or agreement of payment.

12/01/22

Eben allegedly stated he hasn’t been paid by Signature, and that the company has been trying to “shut his project down”. This is what he had to say after he allegedly made that statement.Disclaimer: We use the term “Allegedly” as we do not have a clip proving his exact words.

13/01/22

In a letter Signature wrote to both Why Don't We’s and Randy’s attorneys on 12/09/2021; Signature claims the 5 boys shared 3 bedrooms.

13/01/22

In an interview with people, dated August 10, 2017, theguys talk about sharing only 2 bedrooms. Daniel and Jack to one; Corbyn, Jonah and Zach to another. This interview occurred 4 years before this lawsuit and allegations were brought about.

13/01/22

We have been able to exclusively obtain this document confirming a hearing for Why Don't We vs. Signature for 15/03/22 (March 15 2022) to possibly 17/03/22 (March 17 2022). We have been told by a trustable source that if they win this, they WILL be let out of their contract.

15/01/22

Daniel Has filed a motion to dismiss Signature's added complaint of “defamation of character” against Why Don’t We. Daniel has stated the first amendment and the fact that they (Why Don't We) never named signature in their public statements. Only ever referring to “one of our managers”.

18/01/22

Evidence and Educated Inferences:

Christian Seavey states that he’s watched his “brother go through some stuff” and indicates that it’s changed him. He refers to the “stuff” and overall situation as “heartbreaking”.

Carrie Frantzich, Jonah’s mother, writes, “Finally the truth comes out”.

Tyler Seavey states, “a long time coming”..“The core root of me leaving my job…was one man who made my life miserable enough to choose to leave touring the world with my brother.”. Insinuating that HIS reason for leaving his job was because of his own mistreatment by David.

Scott Helman, whose relationship to the band we can only assume is a professional one, recalled “an abusive conversation” he witnessed with his friend when he met the band. And described David as “an Asshole”.

Gruvi (Sydnie Avery) mentions “Daily tear filled phone calls” from Jack. Anthony Ortiz, one of Jack’s best friends, insinuates that this is signatures “Karma” indicating that he was aware of some of what was going on prior.

In a video clip from “30 days with ==Why Don’t We==", below, we see the boys talk about a “3 strike rule” and being convinced on at least one occasions that their careers would be over, over a a gusher wrapper.

In a video clip from “30 days with ==Why Don’t We==", below, we see the boys talk about a “3 strike rule” and being convinced on at least one occasions that their careers would be over, over a a gusher wrapper.In a letter written to Why Don’t We’s Attorneys, demanding retraction of these “false claims” made on social media, Signature claimed "there was no record of any complaint to any family member about abuse”Why would they give Signature records of the family’s knowledge of the abuse before Discovery? It’s known that giving evidence before being required to do so can potentially give the other party time to fabricate details.The word finally is used a lot, it’s definition is “after a long time, typically involving difficulty or delay.”. Why would they use the word “finally” if they are just hearing these accusations for the first time?

19/01/22

From the December 30th, 2020 upload of “30 days of Why Don’t We”, 3 years after the first clip we posted; the boys still spoke of Jonah, Zach and Corbyn sharing a room. One bed, one air mattress.

19/01/22

January 14, 2022: Counsel for both parties met (mediation of sorts) to discuss Daniel’s motion for signature to drop the defamation charges. The parties couldn’t come to an agreement.

26/01/22

Jonah, Corbyn, Jack and Zach Have filed a motion to dismiss Signature’s allegations of defamation of character. This motion is similar to Daniel’s, meaning all 5 have now filed this motion under their perspective counsel.

26/01/22

Signature’s allegations of defamation by Why Don't We. They included all six Instagram posts (the band page and personal account) as evidence along with supportive comments from fans made on the post.— Disclaimer: We blocked out usernames ourselves.

27/01/22

We have recently come about information that, we feel, not only answers frequently asked questions we receive but, also clears up confusion. This information we obtained also highlights the seriousness and severity of the case. We ask that these statements and words not be reformatted in any way as they are worded the way they are for a reason. Our source for this information is not public domain, so we are unable to share the origin of it at this time. Although we normally cite evidence for our claims and beliefs, we cannot do so. This page focuses on the truth and spends hours collecting and filtering out information to keep the fandom flooded with as much correct and true information as possible. We do not post anything we can’t confirm. “We believe” is in reference to this page, our carrd and our Instagram account, @freewdwproof.A ― We believe the guys only received around 14k each in the year 2021.B ― We believe that Signature has withheld advances for Why Don't We that weren't negotiated by Signature.C ― We believe Signature is with holding payments from Why Don't We in order to coerce them into signing a new contract with Signature.D ― We believe Why Don't We will never sign those
contracts no matter what Signature does.
E ― We believe Daniel having his own counsel strengthens the case for all five, as Daniel is the majority writer and producer for the band.F ― We believe Why Don't We and Eben are simply artists stuck in the middle of a falling out between Why Don't We's current representatives and Signature.G ― We believe the artists are being used as a "bargaining chip" by Signature against Why Don't We's representatives.H ― We believe Signature, or a member of signature, gave away Daniel's credit for production on TGTATBO to a close friend of theirs, when Daniel allegedly produced almost the entire album himself. We believe a monetary exchange may have occurred with this.I ― We believe Why Don't We's current representatives have Why Don't We's best interest at heart.J ― We believe the only way we, as fans, can actually help Why Don't We in this case is to stream their music. We believe the better the music does, the better chance Why Don't We has.K ― We believe at this time that Signature will not settle, and that Signature only wants the guys to re-sign their contract with them.We understand some of these statements can be stressful or upsetting to read. We ask all questions be directed to us and us only. We ask if you repost this information to your social media accounts, that you make sure all questions are directed back to us. We ask that you don’t answer them yourselves. We cannot cite our sources on our above statements but we can give more in depth detail as to these statement if asked, some, we actually do have shareable confirmation for from public documents. We can try to provide that if we have it and are specifically asked. We take full accountability for these statements above and will do our best to answer any further questions you may have.

09/02/22

Today is the Anti-Suit injunction hearing. Signature will argue in favor of the motion to try to stop the Labor Board hearing in March. This motion was filed by Signature in October. We will update you as we receive info on this matter later in the day.

03/03/22

(VIA @JeffSeavey) "Count it as a win!! The injunction against
@whydontwemusic
was “DENIED”!!! WDW will get their day in court before the CA Labor Commission!!!
We still have a long way to go!! Prayers and Good Thoughts Appreciated!!!"

15/03/22

This morning, Why Don't We will go before the California Labor Board. This board has time blocked out to hear their case from today, March 15, to Thursday, March 17. We don't personally know how this court operates, but here's what you should know:1. We, the public, are not guaranteed a verdict on any of these three days.2. There is no "are they winning so far". This is a hearing in court of law. No matter what, there is no verdict until their judge declares it.3. If Why Don't We wins this California Labor Board case, they will be free.4. We have it from our sources that there is a plan B. If this way doesn't aid them, there are other avenues they can take. Do not give up hope.5. Please do not flood the #FreeWDW hashtag on court dates (or ever). We try to use it to spread correct and true information regarding the case, and we want to make sure that everyone has access to the information we or anyone else receives.6. Stay strong for the guys. They need us now more than ever to support them.7. A way you can always help and show support is to stream their music. Our sources say our support helps them more than we know.

15/03/22

In the Florida case, Signature vs. Why Don't We, Signature has filed to appeal the court’s denial of the Anti-Suit Injunction.
― Definitions ―Appeal: the legal process to ask a higher court to review a decision by a judge in a lower court (trial court) because you believe the judge made a mistake.Anti-Suit Injunction: An order that prevents an opposing case from continuing in another jurisdiction.

15/03/22

― California Labor Commission Case Update ―Our source has informed us tonight that the case has been postponed after a brief hearing this morning to May 4th (04/05/22) through May 6th (06/05/22). We can not share any further details at this time.

25/03/22

The "Unbelievable" lyric video has been acknowledged in the court documents.Loeffler filmed Third-Party Plaintiffs and Seavey in the nude during a time when at least one Third-Party Plaintiff was a minor.”

In an interview with Zach Sang, uploaded on September 11, 2019, the boys state they looked back and saw the crew filming. An unnamed individual allegedly told them “Keep going, we’re filming”. 2 female crew members allegedly inquired, “why didn’t you ask us to do it?”.

29/03/22

UPDATE: Daniel's deposition is today.― Deposition: A witness's sworn out-of-court testimony, used to gather information as part of the discovery process.

01/04/22

In February 2022, Daniel filed for bankruptcy. We’ve decided to post our speculations based off our research. Daniel's deposition was in relation to his bankruptcy case. When a person is granted bankruptcy, they have a right to terminate contracts. Daniel, although now officially bankrupt, was able to terminate his contract with Signature, and theoretically is now free of his obligations to signature. The cake was correct in a sense. However, Signature would have fourteen days to appeal. We are waiting for documents to post before we can officially confirm this information. We would like to state at this time, for legal reasons, these are simply our own speculations based off of recent events and findings. We don’t make a habit of posting without proof, but the remaining evidence has yet to become public record.
― DEFINITIONS ―
Chapter 11: a form of bankruptcy that involves a reorganization of a debtor's business affairs, debts, and assets, and for that reason is known as "reorganization" bankruptcy. It is most often used by large entities.Emancipation: the fact or process of being set free from legal, social, or political restrictions; liberation.

01/04/22

Documents found, Judge granted termination of Signature contract. By law, Signature has 14 days from March 30th (30/03/22) to appeal. If they don’t, or an appeal gets denied, Daniel will be free from his Signature contract.

05/04/22

Upon the news regarding tour, We’ve received questions through our DM’s if the label could step in. Therefore we wanted to also address this here, they could. Although, It would be expensive and it would be another legal battle, they have a right to. Atlantic has artists sign inducements, if all the Why Don't We boys signed, then Atlantic has a right to invoke it. At this point the delay of ticket sales alone also affect the companies supporting this tour. These companies include: LiveNation, AGI, Warner Music and above all, Atlantic Records.However, if they chose to step in, it’s not a guaranteed win. No legal matter is. If they win, they could sign the boys directly to their label, completely pushing signature out of the way. This however would be expensive, and though we are aware of other paths they could take, this is one way the label might intervene should they decide to. We are posting this so you can remain hopeful. This is a postponing of ticket sales, not the tour as of right now. Why Don't We and their team will continue to fight tooth and nail until they can see us again and until they are free.

05/04/22

Through further research, we’ve figured out that even if Atlantic did in fact invoke the artist inducement, Signature would still own the name and could still block the tour, which we believe is what may be happening.

06/04/22

The case in Florida has been stayed for Daniel. This temporarily stops Signature’s court actions against him. Whatever claims Signature has against Daniel alone can now only be addressed in Bankruptcy court. As for the other four (Jack, Zach, Corbyn and Jonah), the case IS NOT paused. Just Daniel’s portion. Theguys however still benefit from this, for this allows Atlantic to invoke the inducement. The inducement will prevent Signature from having control over A&R, marketing and budget approval processes (meaning they could release music).

― DEFINITIONS ―
Stay: an action taken by a court to stop a legal proceeding or the actions of a party.A&R: the division of a record label or music publishing company that is responsible for talent scouting and overseeing the artistic development of recording artists.

06/04/22

David Loeffler and Steve Miller have a new company, Anomaly Create, managing a new band with the help of Jon lucero. The band has been active on Sessions Live for at least 5 months, with over 300 subscribers. They have also signed Jon’s Niece to their company.

Their website: Anomaly CreatePlease do not send any hate to anyone involved, this post is intended to merely post findings of our own research.

Caspary is in fact working with Anomaly Create as well. He follows all the artists and the bands page. He is also tagged in several photos for the artists along with posting a few like this one on his personal Instagram.

19/04/22

Eben stating that he cannot release music because of his contract.

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22/04/22

We are aware that everyone has a lot of questions at the moment concerning the 2022 tour. We are asking you be considerate to the parties involved and wait for some information from Why Don't We or their associates. The information is ever changing. They will announce as soon as they are in possession of a clear answer.

26/04/22

Signature has filed a motion to dismiss Jonah, Corbyn, Jack and Zach’s counterclaim against them. The counterclaim Why Don't We filed included them revealing to the court they were filmed nude, without their consent, during the “Unbelievable” video shoot.

27/04/22

(VIA @JeffSeavey) "IG Live Update (4-26-22) ❤️"

04/05/22

This morning, Why Don't We will go before the California Labor Board. This board has time blocked out to hear their case from today, May 4th to Friday, May 6th. We have found limited information on how this court operates, but here is what you should know:1. We, the public, are not guaranteed a verdict on any of these three days.2. There is no "are they winning so far". This is a hearing in court of law. No matter what, there is no verdict until the Labor Commissioner declares it.3. If Why Don't We wins this California Labor Board case, they will be free. This should include the return of lost funds over the last 2 years and the copyrights to their name and music. This would also cancel signatures case against them in Florida.4. We have it from our sources that there is a plan B. If this way doesn't aid them, there are other avenues they can take. Do not give up hope.5. Stay strong for the guys today. They need us now more than ever to support them.6. A way you can always help and show support is to stream their music. Our sources say our support helps them more than we know.7. This very well can take up their whole day, do not worry if you do not see them active.We are working to gather a clear answer on how long verdicts take in this court. Please DM us on here, or on our Instagram (@freewdwproof) for questions, and keep an eye out for updates, we will post as soon as they come available.

05/05/22

Today is Day 2 of the Why Don't We vs. Signature hearing before the California Labor Board. From our understanding through our research, a verdict could come by end of day tomorrow, May 6. However it can take up to 30 days to have it validated by the Supreme Court of California.

06/05/22

Today is the 3rd and final day of the California Hearing. Reminder, we may not hear of a verdict today, even if one is made.

13/05/22

Why Don't We has filed an opposition to Signature’s motion to dismiss Why Don't We’s counter claim. In this opposition they restated their claim that “Signature failed to provide proper credits and publishing revenues/purposefully diverted credits and income with false attribution to 3rd parties”.They restate Signature didn’t consult/advise Why Don't We before entering contracts on their behalf (ie. Sessions) & Signature failed to distribute the funds from these to Why Don't We. They state that credits were falsely given to 3rd parties, which took money away from what Why Don't We was due.

Trying to simplify this string of filings for you all:Why Don't We: “Here is a list of things we’d like to legally hold them accountable for”.
Signature: “This is untrue and should be dismissed.”
Why Don't We “This IS true and should not be dismissed.”

13/05/22

UPDATE: Daniel is officially free from his Signature contract! 🤍🤍🤍

15/05/22

The California Labor Commission hearing has been extended to June 3rd and June 7th. There is still no word in how long a verdict will take specifically. We are still trying to find an answer to that, and will keep you posted.

19/05/22

Eben on Instagram live when asked about his song “Changes”, “You’ll get Changes when I’m out of this contractual bulls**t and I’m actually able to release music.— Don’t worry, I’m gonna be dropping everything, it’s just taking forever."

24/05/22

Corbyn, on Blue List Tv’s Twitch stream last night with Zach, talking about having the green light to release music that they previously couldn’t, being “beat down by some legal stuff", and wanting to give back to fans.

01/06/22

Signature’s motion to dismiss Why Don't We’s counterclaim in the Florida case has been denied!

03/06/22

In regards to questions about the tour, Daniel said this during the fan Zoom call: "The cease and desists will not stop us." They have been fighting to tour, and they have confirmed they will not let anything get in the way of seeing their fans!
Clip via Silvia Cortez

03/06/22

Today is Day 4 of the California Labor Commission hearing. Tuesday (June 7th) is the last day scheduled for this hearing. We still don’t know if a verdict will be reached by Tuesday.

15/06/22

Verdict for the California Labor Commission hearing might not be in for 1-6 months.

27/06/22

If you won Why Don't We tickets from a radio station for the original dates and had it revoked because of the postponed ticket sales, call your station. We’ve confirmed 2 previous winners are having their prizes honored for the new dates.

01/07/22

― CASE UPDATES ―Why Don’t We’s original, unedited statement
Randy urging David and Steve to "make things right"
Eben confirming Atlantic [Records] is not blocking his music

TW // Eating DisordersWhy Don't We's original, unpublished statement compared side by side to the condensed published version. The original reveals one member lost 40 pounds due to the eating disorder.Red: Different wording
Blue: Retracted parts

Randy's Email to David and Steve on August 17, 2021, attempting to talk things out in order to protect Why Don't We and Eben from management's separation lawsuit, mentioning misappropriated publishing rights (by Signature) and Sessions.

Eben confirming that Atlantic Records are not the ones blocking his music, going on to say they have been nothing but good to him and he considers Atlantic [Records] to be his family.

06/07/22

We, Free Why Don’t We Proof, will continue to follow and research the California Labor Comission and Florida cases throughout Why Don't We’s hiatus, and until they are free. A hiatus is defined as, “a pause or gap in a sequence, series, or process." This means Why Don't We is on break with intent to return. We’ve all now seen the cease and desist order, we can confirm this order is the reason. Because Signature owns the copyrights and trademarks to their music, their name, and their logos; they can revoke consent for all of the above to be used in any promotion or performance. That is what they have done. The CLC verdict has yet to come in, and can free them. If not the CLC, there is the Florida lawsuit and other forms of litigation that can also free them from Signature. The reason for removing the band’s name and association from their bio’s is because of this cease and desist letter. We can easily assume the blacked out portions were threats of a lawsuit if they continue using the aforementioned “copyrighted material”. Why Don’t We has fought tooth and nail for this tour and they will continue to fight. This is not the end, this is a pause.#FreeWDW

12/07/22

Daniel is able to do other projects because he is out of his contract via bankruptcy. They can not make any moves as a band until they are free from Signature. Daniel can continue to make money through music during the hiatus, the other four are still bound by Signature.

23/08/22

David has filed a motion to dismiss Why Don't We’s complaint that seeks to hold him accountable for contractual duties that he didn’t meet. David’s reasoning is he thinks he shouldn’t be held personally accountable for Signature’s alleged breach.To clarify: In every case, a motion is just a request to the judge. The judge will approve or deny the motion. This motion has not been ruled on yet.#FreeWDW

24/08/22

Randy’s deposition reveals that he & David’s wife had to have an “intervention” with David because he was pushing Why Don't We too hard. It also confirms the parents were aware and had notified Randy, contrary to David’s allegations that no one spoke up until the case was filed.#FreeWDW

09/11/22

We have finally received confirmation through public documents that the California Labor Board verdict is still pending. Therefore, a decision has either not yet been made, or has not been cleared by California’s Supreme Court. We could still be waiting until December/January.

15/11/22

A long but general update that explains some confusion and why the information comes out the way it does:Signature has long accused Randy of interfering with Signature’s relationship with Why Don't We. Signature is actively refusing to hand over any evidence to support their claim (even after they agreed to hand over some). Signature has also refused to hand over accounting documents for Why Don't We, documents for the PPP and other COVID-19 relief Signature applied for and allegedly received. Signature continues to claim Why Don't We and Randy’s “charges” against them are unfounded or made up. According to records, Randy and Why Don't We have tried to discuss settlement. Randy has gone as far to offer Signature more time to discuss the charges one by one after Signature complained about not having explanations, but Signature allegedly turned around and refused.It’s our belief that Signature has no intentions of settling, or cooperating appropriately. Based on records, Signature has made every step a mountain of paperwork and file repetitive motions that are consistently denied by the courts.Court cases of this stature typically don’t move swiftly, but we do believe Signature has made the extra effort to make this as gruesome for Why Don't We and Randy as possible. Patience and understanding with Why Don't We, their families and their team is needed. Also, please understand that even though this case is public, as are all cases of this stature, that the people named in these cases legally can not talk about it. One of the reasons this page exists, is this knowledge. As soon as we find updates or information, we inform you. To us, this has been and continues to be a human rights issue, financial/psychological abuse and strong arming at its core.

21/11/22

(VIA @nikitacrave) "Updated info [Randy] gave about [Why Don't We] hiatus"

16/12/22

Signature reportedly alleges that Why Don't We’s “refusal to perform certain obligations of the agreements” (ie. SessionsLive) cost Signature $50M (fifty million dollars), all while allegedly refusing to provide documents (including PPP documents) to support their claim.Definitions:
“PPP” is The Paycheck Protection Program. It provides small businesses with funds to pay up to 8 weeks of payroll costs including benefits. Funds can also be used to pay interest on mortgages, rent, and utilities. Fully Forgiven.
To clarify: This means exactly what it says. Signature is arguing that WDW cost Signature 50 million dollars. We speculate they are talking about the Sessions Live contract as that’s a reoccurring contract Signature mentions.

16/12/22

To our knowledge, Signature did receive and still is receiving a percentage of money from the band’s music streams and sales.(Why Don't We receives money too, as well as anyone involved in the writing and production)

18/12/22

With the 6 month (California average) deadline we previously researched and found for the CLC coming, we dug a little deeper for more understanding. We have learned that US Department of Labor standard (nationwide guideline) is 7-9 months.Source: dol.govWhat does this mean?
Although we are hopeful that Why Don't We’s case will have a verdict within the average CLC time frame, we wanted to inform and prepare for the possibility that we may be looking at the national 7-9 month average. To our knowledge, NO VERDICT has been reached yet.

The complexity of the issue(s) on appeal or a request for oral argument may affect the length of time it takes to decide an appeal.

20/12/22

The lawsuit & bankruptcy case made Why Don't We’s addresses public because of US laws requiring transparency. It is illegal to take any information you view in these documents and use it to harass, dox, or cause any form of harm. Our thoughts are with Daniel as navigates this situation.TMZ article: WHY DON'T WE SINGER Daniel Seavey's Obsessed Fan Returns... BREAKS IN AGAIN, TRIES TO KISS HIM!!!

22/12/22

Randy’s motion to compel production of documents was GRANTED for all but 2 documents. The documents Signature is ordered to produce include accounting records for Why Don't We and documents related to Signature receiving PPP and other COVID-19 financial relief. Signature has 15 days to produce.These are the two documents that the judge ordered do not have to be produced. Randy can refile with more detail to request these documents from Signature.This means: Signature will have to hand over things like accounting for Why Don't We (payments, expenses) for the entirety of them being a band. It’s possible these are documents Why Don't We themselves have never seen. It will hopefully shed light on how and why Why Don't We hasn’t been paid.

23/12/22

Monday, December 19th (19/12/22) at 9:45am PST SessionsLive shut down. They gave artists and fans no warnings and no explanations. They made no payments or refunds to artists or fans on the platform. One artist tried to contact them about it, and this is what they received (see joint picture):We don’t know if this means anything for the case, but the Sessions contract is brought up several times in it.The artist who came to us with this information did not want to be tagged.

11/01/23

Back in March 2022, Signature filed to appeal the Florida courts denial of the anti-suit injunction. This motion was an attempt by Signature to stop the CLC trial from happening. Now, 10 months after the motion was filed and 6 months after the CLC has completed (no verdict yet).If the appeal is granted: There will be another hearing in front of the judge overseeing the lawsuit, and both sides would have to argue their case again, which will likely wind up with the same result as the first, denied. Signature can not appeal this motion again.

13/01/23

UPDATE: 2 days before Signature’s January 5th deadline to produce documents (ie. accounting, COVID relief), they requested a 10 day extension to make the new due date January 16th (16/01/23). We don’t know yet if this request was granted. If it wasn’t, Signature could be reprimanded.

19/01/23

David Loeffler’s motion to dismiss Why Don't We’s amended complaint against him is DENIED!This means Why Don't We will be able to continue with their lawsuit against David Loeffler as an individual.

27/01/23

Eben is confirmed to be free via Jonah’s Instagram story!#FreeEBEN #FreeWDW

03/02/23

Signature's witness list will consist of 4 people:
1. Chief Financial Officer of Signature Entertainment, LLC
2. An Economist
3. 2 Accountants (listed together)
All 4 people will be testifying to, in Signature’s own words, “Damages sustained by Signature”.Pictured is Signature's own estimation of damages allegedly caused by Why Don't We. So far, Signature has not disclosed how they came up with these numbers and are allegedly avoiding Why Don't We and Randy's questions surrounding it.#FreeWDW

03/02/23

Randy has filed a motion to compel against Signature. He is asking the court to make Signature produce the proof that they sustained $50M+ in damages. This appears to be Randy’s third attempt to get clarification from Signature on this matter.What does this mean? In the simplest of terms, Randy is asking Signature to show them their “math”, per say. He wants to see the financial documents, accounting, and contracts that Signature used to get that $50M+ number. Signature has allegedly not complied in this for 9 months.

07/02/23

Why Don't We’s trial witnesses and what they are testifying to are as follows:

1. Music Industry Expert― Testifying to the contract being beyond industry standards, overbearing, a conflict of interest, Signature's estimated damage claims, money paid to Jaycen Joshua, dehumanization of Why Don't We by Loeffler, Signature’s hinderance to Why Don't We’s careers, Signature’s lack of good faith, failure to disperse funds to Why Don't We, and how Loeffler and Signature’s multiple forms of alleged abuse voided the contract.

2.Talent Agency Act Expert―Testifying to how Signature and Loeffler violated the TAA (Talent Agency Act)

3. Forensic Accountant ExpertTestifying against Signature’s claims of monetary loss and to Signature’s failure to account and pay Why Don't We.

P.S.: We won’t be releasing names or information to identify the witnesses in this trial. If you have this information, do not use it. Doing anything with the identifying information could prolong and harm the case. Just because they are public, doesn’t mean they should be.

07/02/23

Revealed in Daniel’s bankruptcy documents, in regards to the ongoing bankruptcy suit between Signature and Daniel, Signature sought to replace Daniel in the band in retaliation to Daniel rejecting Signature’s contract. The contracts for Why Don't We are due to expire in September, 2023.Signature stated, “Until these issues are resolved, and a replacement for [Daniel] is added to the group, there is no path forward to either tour or release music." This confirms further that Signature’s actions were the sole cause of the bands hiatus and cancellation of tour.To be clear, “Replacement” is NOT happening. It’s not a possibility. It won’t happen. It’s just something Signature wanted. It’s just something Signature said to Why Don't We.

10/02/23

UPDATE | Daniel's bankruptcyAccording to documents, Signature is still fighting Daniel through his bankruptcy case. We’ve determined through research that Signature can only claim a debt is owed to them (much like in the Florida suit). Documents do not show any basis behind the claim, they essentially just allege Daniel helped lose them $53M. They are also claiming that they own Daniel, his name and likeness despite Daniel successfully rejecting the contract and being legally out of it. They appear to be doing everything they can think of to try and profit from Daniel’s solo career, disregarding the rejection and claiming the contract is still in play until September 28th, 2023. Daniel may be out of the contract legally, but Signature is using every legal avenue to avoid leaving Daniel alone.The bankruptcy court date is next week. We will update more as records become available.

13/02/23

Why Don't We has filed a petition/motion to strike Signature's witnesses on the following basis:- The fact that Signature did not file their witness list correctly (i.e details like experience, CV, and pay rate.)- Allowing these witnesses would be prejudice against Why Don't We and Randy because they did not disclose pay rate, qualifications, or the opinions of these witnesses in this case.- Signature's non-compliance with the court's order concerning the filing disrupts the efficiency of the trial because Signature filed “preliminary” to presumably try to give themselves more time.- Why Don't We and Randy filed a complete and proper expert witness list on time. Signature filed an improper and incomplete witness list on the deadline along with a motion to (essentially) change the case management schedule to (presumably) allow them more time.- Randy’s lawyer tried to resolve this issue by phone with Signature’s lawyer, and no resolution could be made between them.- To date, Signature has not produced any evidence for their damage claims.What does this mean?Why Don't We alleges that Signature purposely didn't follow the court's order following the filing of their witness list to waste time, while adding that they are at reasonable risk of getting unfair treatment if the witnesses are allowed through because of the intentional misfiling made by Signature who didn't include the witnesses' opinions, evidence and pay rate weren’t filed.

17/02/23

In Signature’s response to Randy’s motion to compel, it’s revealed that Signature is waiting for the expert’s testimony to finish “calculating damages”.They appear to be relying on the expert witnesses, that they pay to testify their opinions on the matter, to tell them how much they have lost in damages. This furthers our opinion that Signature did not fully examine their witnesses and our opinion that Signature doesn’t actually know how much in “damages” they have allegedly incurred. Signature hasn’t said how they came to that $53M figure, and it appears (to us) that Signature isn’t entirely sure either, as it seems to be a complete estimation.

26/02/23

Why Don't We and Randy have jointly filed a motion to stay the Florida case. The previous motion to stay was not quite denied, but also not granted. The stay was motioned pending the CLC case verdict.Since the CLC hasn’t announced their verdict yet, staying the case could save time and resources for both parties in the Florida case. The stay could potentially remove the current court case from the docket, but if the CLC rules in Signature’s favor, a new date would be issued for the Florida case. This is just a motion at this time, which has not been granted or denied yet. Signature admitted in the public documents that the CLC verdict is affecting them as well, as the verdict could change the way both parties plead their case.What does this mean?This is all the information we have on this particular motion at this time. A stay is a pause. A stay to the case pending the CLC verdict could help both parties immensely, saving money and timeDisclaimer: We are not in anyway insinuating that this means anyone is winning or losing. As we have stated from the beginning, this is not a race. And no point before the end of a trial is there one ahead of the other. The American justice system is designed to give both parties as even if a playing field as possible through the whole judicial process and proceedings.

06/03/23

Why Don't We and Randy have filed a joint protective order that asks the court to allow them to hold depositions and mediations via Zoom. Signature is fighting against it, demanding they all appear in person, in Florida, despite the fact that the majority of the parties in this case are from California and would have to travel for long periods to do so. Signature claims Zoom mediation and deposition is a “waste of time”. They also re-state that they will not settle. Signature is also trying to hold the ability to use Zoom against Why Don't We and Randy as a bargaining chip, essentially saying, “we will let you use Zoom, if you agree to re arrange the case management order”. If you recall, Signature violated the case management order in early February, when they filed an incomplete witness list on the deadline along side a motion to change the case management order to fit their own needs.

07/03/23

Randy’s motion to compel against Signature has been GRANTED!This means Signature HAS to produce Specifics of who, what, when, where, and how the contracts were breached and how they got to that $53M figure.

11/03/23

Revealed Through public records:Randy is testifying as an expert witness, and is going to testify the allegation that Signature was promised Equity (stocks and shares) in Sessions Live as part of Why Don't We’s deal.
We have not seen any documents to support this, but we speculate Randy and Why Don't We were not aware of this at the time, nor were they included in this presumably back door deal. It would thoroughly explain how Signature stayed afloat, while Why Don't We never received a payment. Sessions typically paid its artists 6 weeks after the fact, and took larger cuts for themselves towards the end (per anonymous sessions artists). Sessions would have had a duty to pay their share holders before their artists to keep them afloat.
If Randy is testifying to this, he has proof. Documents in Discovery don’t always become public, so we may not see any evidence of this claim until after the trial, if at all.

17/03/23

Why Don't We was being asked to essentially downgrade for their 3rd Sessions performance by Signature, reasons unknown but we believe it was to cut costs so Signature can pocket more money. Also, Why Don't We weren’t in agreement with the price of Sessions, and it appears they only saw it through to try to give fans the absolute best they could, despite not getting paid. They also hint, in this email, that details weren’t always given to them upfront or given at the very last second, leaving little room to prepare.

22/03/23

Signature is asking for another extension of deadlines, this one is for discovery. There was a separate case between Randy and David in California that Randy dismissed (reason unknown).Signature is now asking the Florida court to extend the discovery deadline so they can motion for financial records and communications from Randy that he intended to get in the California case, for the Florida case. These are records that Signature hasn’t appeared to have planned to ask for in Florida, but given the California case got dropped, now wants them for the Florida case.The California case was to remove David as a manager from Randy’s company, PDMIII. We aren’t finding a viable connection in our research to conclude documents from that case would be relevant in the Florida case.

27/03/23

(VIA @JeffSeavey) "@Whydontwemusic won 3 major motions in court today!! Was a VERY good day! Still a long ways to go, but we’ll take it!! More info coming soon!!"

28/03/23

Why Don't We and Randy’s motion for protective order to allow them to attend mediation and depositions remotely (Zoom/phone) has been GRANTED!

28/03/23

Why Don't We and Randy’s motion to strike (get rid of) Signature’s expert witnesses has been GRANTED!It was found Signature intentionally violated the order and caused prejudice and the only way to rectify the violation (that Signature didn’t deny) is to strike the witnesses and impose sanctions in the form of attorney fees incurred by Why Don't We and Randy because of it.

28/03/23

Signature’s motion to modify case management order is DENIED! “Lack of good cause” (logical reasoning) was listed as the Judge’s reason.

06/04/23

Jonah, Jack, Zach and Corbyn are set to deposition for the Florida case today and tomorrow (07/04/23).

06/04/23

(VIA Jonah’s Discord server) He won’t be able to finish cameos due to depositions.


LATEST UPDATE

(17/04/23) Why Don't We and Randy’s motion to stay the Florida case pending the CLC verdict has been denied.The court states they could not grant the motion because the CLC was filed after the Florida case and the CLC doesn’t cover the whole case (i.e Signature’s tortious inference and defamation claims)What does this mean?The case will continue as scheduled.

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